The $20K Slate EV, Linux Mint, Recycle PCs and Smart Battery Upgrades with Kevin Schoonover – HGG662
In this week’s episode of Home Gadget Geeks, I’m joined by Kevin Schoonover for a packed discussion that jumps from health and fitness to EV trucks, from Windows 10’s sunset to ARM’s rise, and all the way down to the small stuff — batteries, smart home gear, and the realities of modern tech maintenance. Thanks for listening!
Episode Summary
We open the show by talking about the weather rolling into Omaha and catching up on the World Series, before Kevin dives into something a little different — his personal health journey. Diagnosed with type 2 diabetes a few years ago, Kevin talks about how medications, diet changes, and lifestyle adjustments helped him regain balance and energy. I share my own pre-diabetes story and how regular checkups and honest conversations with doctors really make a difference.
From there, we take a hard turn into the tech side.
Electric Vehicles, the Rivian R1T, and the New Slate Pickup
Kevin’s been following the EV market closely and is particularly interested in the Rivian R1T and the recently announced Rivian Slate EV pickup — a minimalist, $20,000 all-electric truck designed to do the basics well. He even dropped the refundable $50 deposit just to keep options open when production starts in 2027.
We explore the real-world practicality of EVs — especially in cold climates — and how the Slate’s simple design might appeal to buyers who just need an affordable, lightweight hauler. Kevin jokes about 3D-printing mounts for Bluetooth speakers and other add-ons, showing how customizable a bare-bones EV could become. We also dig into Ford’s retreat from the F-150 Lightning, incentives drying up, and how changing consumer demand might reshape the EV industry in the next few years.
Windows 10’s End of Life and the Rise of Linux Mint
With Windows 10 support ending, Kevin and I talk about what comes next for users who don’t want to jump to Windows 11. Kevin makes the case for Linux Mint — a smooth, stable, and easy-to-use distribution that can breathe life into older hardware.
We also discuss BitLocker, OneDrive integration headaches, and what corporate users face when managing Windows systems under heavy security policies. Linux Mint comes across as a refreshing alternative — lightweight, clean, and user-friendly for everyday tasks, especially if most of your computing happens in a browser.
Enterprise IT and the Cost of Security
I share my own experiences running into corporate security software that eats up performance, sometimes making even fast hardware feel sluggish. Kevin echoes the same from his IT world — constant balancing acts between locking systems down and keeping them usable.
The takeaway: as AI, telemetry, and real-time scanning get heavier, many organizations are starting to explore more efficient approaches — including mobile-based solutions and cloud-first security.
Smart Thermostats, Vendor Lock-In, and End-of-Life Devices
Kevin highlights one of his ongoing frustrations: Google discontinuing support for older Nest thermostats, leaving long-time users in a bind. We talk about the broader trend of planned obsolescence in smart home gear — companies ending support for hardware that still works perfectly.
Sonos gets a mention here too, with its confusing S1 vs. S2 app split, showing how even premium brands can make ownership complicated. Together, we reflect on how “connected” doesn’t always mean “future-proof,” especially for homeowners trying to build reliable automation systems.
The Shift from x86 to ARM and What It Means for Intel
The conversation then turns to silicon. Kevin and I look ahead to the transition from x86 to ARM processors and what it means for the industry.
Kevin notes the efficiency edge of ARM chips, their dominance in mobile, and how Apple’s success with ARM has forced Intel to rethink its strategy. We also discuss AMD’s momentum, Taiwan Semiconductor’s (TSMC) crucial role, and why Intel’s manufacturing delays have left them trailing the pack.
For enthusiasts like us, it’s fascinating — and a little sobering — to think about how quickly this hardware landscape is changing.
Lithium vs. Alkaline: Battery Smarts and Maintenance
We wrap things up with Kevin’s annual battery ritual — replacing 38 to 40 lithium batteries across his Nest Protect smoke detectors, Z-Wave devices, and other smart home sensors.
He swears by Energizer and Rayovac lithiums, which offer longer life and less leakage than alkalines. We talk cost, reliability, and the bonus of reusing lithiums for other gear once they start to drop voltage.
Kevin also recommends using compressed air to clean smoke and CO₂ detectors and shares how Nest Protects and some Google Home apps now display battery status directly. I jump in with a few ideas for home automation that could track battery levels automatically across devices.
Battery Recycling and Environmental Reflections
Toward the end, we talk about battery recycling, local environmental centers, and how most of us still have bins or drawers full of questionable old hardware and drives. It’s a lighthearted close that turns reflective — the kind of segment that reminds listeners how personal tech really is.
We wrap the show looking ahead to upcoming guests — including Christian Johnson on December 4 and our post-Thanksgiving show with Sammy — before joking about show number 666 and deciding not to change it after all.
FAQ:
Q: Who joined Jim Collison on this episode of Home Gadget Geeks?
A: Jim was joined by longtime guest Kevin Schoonover, a friend of the show and frequent contributor known for his hands-on experience with home automation, Linux systems, and EV tech. Together, they discussed everything from electric trucks and processors to smart batteries and daily tech habits.
Q: What was the main theme of episode 662?
A: The episode explored how emerging technologies are reshaping daily life — from affordable EV options like the Rivian Slate to the shift from Windows to Linux Mint, the decline of x86 processors, and smart home sustainability with lithium batteries and automation. It’s a conversation about practicality, performance, and living smarter with tech.
Q: What did Kevin share about his health and fitness journey?
A: Kevin opened up about being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in 2019–2020 and how medication, improved diet, and regular checkups helped him take control of his health. Jim also related his own experience managing pre-diabetes, emphasizing the importance of early testing and doctor conversations.
Q: What’s special about the Rivian Slate EV pickup?
A: The Rivian Slate is an upcoming compact electric pickup expected to cost around $20,000, making it one of the most affordable EVs in the works. It’s designed for simplicity and utility — ideal for errands or local drives — and may enter production in 2027. Kevin even placed a $50 refundable deposit to hold a spot.
Q: Why did Kevin and Jim discuss Linux Mint?
A: With Windows 10 support ending, many users are rethinking their operating systems. Kevin praised Linux Mint for its stability, ease of use, and ability to revive older PCs, while Jim pointed out how most computing now happens in browsers — making Linux a viable, lightweight alternative to Windows 11 for many people.
Q: How is corporate IT changing according to the discussion?
A: Both hosts noted that corporate security tools and real-time protection software are eating up system performance. They explored how many organizations are moving toward mobile-first, cloud-based, or ARM-powered solutions to balance productivity with security without overloading devices.
Q: What challenges did they mention with smart thermostats and smart home devices?
A: Kevin described the frustration of Google ending support for older Nest thermostats, forcing upgrades and breaking integrations. The pair also discussed Sonos’ S1/S2 app split as another example of “planned obsolescence” — when companies make good hardware unusable through software updates or policy changes.
Q: What’s happening with x86 and ARM processors?
A: Kevin and Jim discussed how the industry is shifting away from x86 architecture (Intel/AMD) toward ARM processors, which deliver higher performance-per-watt and better efficiency. They also highlighted Taiwan Semiconductor (TSMC) as a critical player and expressed concern about Intel’s struggle to stay competitive.
Q: What were Kevin’s battery tips and recommendations?
A: Kevin recommends using lithium batteries instead of alkalines, especially for devices like Nest Protects and Z-Wave smoke detectors. They last longer, don’t leak, and perform better in temperature swings. He uses about 40 lithium AAs annually and prefers Energizer and Rayovac brands. He also suggests using compressed air to clean detectors to avoid false alarms.
Q: Did they discuss recycling and environmental impacts?
A: Yes — toward the end, Kevin mentioned local environmental centers that collect used batteries for recycling, while Jim reflected on the growing challenge of e-waste and joked about having too many old hard drives lying around. It was a thoughtful close to a very tech-centric episode.
Q: Who are the upcoming guests on Home Gadget Geeks?
A: Jim previewed the next few shows, including Christian Johnson on December 4, and a post-Thanksgiving episode featuring Sammy, continuing a fun annual tradition. The team also joked about episode 666 coming soon and decided to embrace it rather than skip the number.
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Episode Chapters
[2:21] – Health and Fitness Journey
[4:51] – Exploring Electric Vehicles
[10:20] – The Appeal of the Slate EV
[24:10] – Transitioning to Linux Mint
[38:09] – Fix-It Clinics and PC Repairs
[41:24] – Corporate IT’s Shift to Mobile Devices
[46:09] – The Burden of Security Software
[46:38] – Linux Compatibility with Audio Devices
[49:35] – Smart Thermostat Upgrades and Challenges
[55:29] – The Future of x86 Architecture
[59:27] – ARM Processors on the Rise
[1:06:37] – Seasonal Battery Maintenance Tips
[1:14:11] – Smart Smoke Detectors and Automation
[1:18:30] – Closing Thoughts and Future Guests
Summary
- Home Gadget Geeks Show Introduction and Guest Introduction[0:00]
- Jim Collison introduces the Home Gadget Geeks show, mentioning the date and the focus on tech gadgets, news, reviews, and product updates.
- Jim welcomes Kevin Schoonover, the guest for the show, and mentions the upcoming winter precipitation in Omaha.
- Jim thanks the Patreon subscribers and encourages listeners to support the network through Amazon purchases.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the World Series, with Kevin mentioning he followed the games but is not a huge baseball fan.
- Kevin Schoonover’s Health and Dietary Changes[2:24]
- Jim comments on Kevin’s fitness and asks about his dietary changes and exercise routine.
- Kevin explains that he was diagnosed with type two diabetes in 2019 or 2020 and has been managing his sugar levels with medications and diet.
- Kevin mentions that the medications help with appetite suppression and overall management of diabetes.
- Jim shares his own experience with pre-diabetes and the importance of regular check-ups and conversations with doctors.
- Electric Vehicles (EVs) and the Rivian R1T[4:55]
- Jim and Kevin discuss the current state of the EV market, mentioning Ford’s decision to stop production of the F-150 Lightning.
- Kevin talks about his interest in the Rivian R1T and the $50 deposit required to secure a unit, with production expected in 2027.
- Kevin explains his needs analysis for a new vehicle, considering the family’s current vehicles and the potential benefits of an EV.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the practicality of EVs, especially in cold weather, and the appeal of the Rivian R1T as a grocery getter and errand vehicle.
- The Slate EV Pickup and Market Trends[8:48]
- Kevin shares details about the Slate EV pickup, including its projected price around $20,000 and its simplicity compared to other vehicles.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the potential challenges and benefits of the Slate, including its small size and lack of entertainment systems.
- Kevin mentions the possibility of 3D printing mounts for Bluetooth speakers and other accessories for the Slate.
- Jim and Kevin talk about the changing market trends for EVs and the impact of incentives and consumer preferences on the industry.
- Windows 11 and Linux Mint as Alternatives[24:12]
- Jim and Kevin discuss the end of support for Windows 10 and the options for upgrading to Windows 11.
- Kevin explains his interest in Linux Mint as a stable desktop Linux product and its potential as a replacement for Windows.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the benefits of Linux Mint, including its ease of use and the availability of various Linux distributions.
- Kevin mentions the importance of turning on BitLocker and other security features in Windows 11 and the potential issues with OneDrive integration.
- Enterprise IT and Security Concerns[41:40]
- Jim shares his experience with corporate security software consuming system resources and impacting performance.
- Kevin discusses the challenges of managing security and performance in enterprise IT environments.
- Jim and Kevin talk about the increasing resource demands of security software and the impact on user experience.
- Kevin mentions the importance of balancing security and functionality in corporate IT environments.
- Smart Thermostats and Vendor Support[48:32]
- Kevin discusses the challenges of integrating older smart thermostats with new apps and the potential for vendor support issues.
- Jim and Kevin talk about the trend of vendors discontinuing support for older products and the impact on consumers.
- Kevin shares his experience with Google and Nest thermostats and the challenges of managing updates and compatibility.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the potential for future upgrades and the importance of long-term support for smart home devices.
- The Future of x86 and ARM Processors[58:35]
- Jim and Kevin discuss the future of x86 processors and the rise of ARM processors in the tech industry.
- Kevin explains the advantages of ARM processors, including better power management and smaller form factors.
- Jim and Kevin talk about the potential impact of ARM processors on the tech industry and the future of Intel and AMD.
- Kevin mentions the importance of Taiwan Semiconductor Company in the development of advanced processors and the challenges faced by Intel.
- Battery Replacement and Maintenance Tips[1:06:53]
- Kevin shares his tips for replacing batteries in smoke detectors and other devices, including the use of compressed air to clean sensors.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the benefits of using lithium batteries over alkaline batteries for long-term performance and reliability.
- Kevin mentions the cost differences between lithium and alkaline batteries and the potential for reusing lithium batteries for other devices.
- Jim and Kevin talk about the importance of regular battery maintenance and the impact of battery quality on device performance.
- Discussion on Battery Usage and Home Automation[1:11:21]
- Jim Collison discusses the idea of using lithium batteries in a flashlight and mentions his experience with a kitchen faucet that uses six double A batteries.
- Jim highlights the sensitivity of devices that stop working as soon as the voltage drops, and his practice of reusing batteries in flashlights.
- Jim expresses interest in home automation features that allow monitoring battery levels in smoke detectors and other devices.
- Kevin Schoonover mentions that Nest Protects and Google apps can indicate battery status, and he will check if Z-Wave-based devices also provide this information.
- Exploring Battery Brands and Types[1:16:15]
- Jim and Kevin discuss different battery brands, with Kevin mentioning Energizer and Rayovac as reliable options for lithium batteries.
- Jim notes the importance of checking milliamps per hour (mAh) ratings to ensure battery longevity and performance.
- Kevin shares an experiment where a door lock started acting up due to a bad lithium battery, highlighting the need for quality control.
- Jim considers trying lithium batteries in his sink to reduce battery waste and improve environmental friendliness.
- Battery Recycling and Environmental Impact[1:17:16]
- Kevin mentions local environmental centers that accept batteries for recycling, though he is unsure of their practices.
- Jim jokes about the potential value of old hard drives and considers whether to recycle them or keep them for sentimental reasons.
- Jim thanks Kevin for participating in the show and reminds listeners about the Discord group and upcoming guests.
- Jim and Kevin discuss the significance of the show number 666, with Kevin suggesting a quick Google search to learn about its cultural meanings.
- Upcoming Shows and Guests[1:18:21]
- Jim announces the upcoming show with Christian Johnson on December 4 and mentions the tradition of having Sammy on the Friday after Thanksgiving.
- Jim humorously considers changing the show number to avoid the connotations of 666 but ultimately decides to keep it.
- Jim thanks the audience for joining and mentions staying around for a post-show discussion.
- Jim lists the names of audience members who participated in the show, including Brian, Joe, Tony, Ken, and John.
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